Do "health degeneration" hex spells stack? - Guild Wars Forums

PoobliuS · Oct 14, 2005, 02:51 PM // 14:51

For example, If I would cast parasitic bond (which does health degen -1/sec) and then cast faintheartedness (health degen -3/sec) would they combine to cause health degen -4/sec? or does the last spell replace the first? or what exactly happens?

Thanks.

Guizzy · Oct 14, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54

God, they would suck if they did not!

huh · Oct 14, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

All of it stacks.
But the max degen arrows you can have at one time is 10, same goes for regen.
So if someone had life degen of 20, he would only suffer from 10. But if healing breeze was cast on that person (assuming 9 regen arrows), the person would still suffer 10 degen arrows (since technically he still has 11 degen arrows).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The Unknown Enemy · Oct 14, 2005, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Your perfectly right, but it is fun watching someone having max health degen. The monks will spam hb on the person, and still he dies. One of my fav combos w/ a group is poison arrow, immolate, conjure phantasm, bleeding (w/e may cause it), phantom pain, and so on.....you can consider them dead, as they won't be able to heal after having 10 points of degen, plus the other 20-30 points if someone were to put a healing spell on them.

Javinator · Oct 14, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Would a monk be able to help the person by casting martyr and then giving themselves an enchanment that gives benefits to healing for being hexxed/injured (assuming the mesmer didn't have shatter enchant)?

Javinator

The Unknown Enemy · Oct 14, 2005, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by Javinator

Would a monk be able to help the person by casting martyr and then giving themselves an enchanment that gives benefits to healing for being hexxed/injured (assuming the mesmer didn't have shatter enchant)?

Javinator

Yes, they would be able to. But one thing, the monk would be pretty damn close to dying, meaning you wouldn't be able to help many people, as you are busy just trying to stay alive.

Akimb0 · Oct 14, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by PoobliuS

For example, If I would cast parasitic bond (which does health degen -1/sec) and then cast faintheartedness (health degen -3/sec) would they combine to cause health degen -4/sec? or does the last spell replace the first? or what exactly happens?

Thanks.

Yes they do, but do it in style - well of suffering - rotting flesh = a minus 9 degen. add in a poison nova if you want to make it -10

Cheshire Cat · Oct 29, 2005, 09:26 AM // 09:26

I know that if two different characters cast the same life degen spell on a target then they do not stack. But, if say you have 2 necromancers each casting life transfer on a single target, and one necro has it at a higher level than the other does, does the higher level transfer take precedence over the lower one, or does the one that was cast first win out? Same goes for any variable level health degen spell like conjure phantasm. I've been wondering this for a long time but nobody can answer it, any help would be appreciated.

Shadowdaemon · Oct 29, 2005, 09:34 AM // 09:34

i know in the case of life siphon and such, both necros will get the regen from it, and i am pretty sure the stronger of the two will effect the target(for a short while you could stick life siphon on two or three targets and the regen would stack, but i am pretty sure they fixed that now)

NatalieD · Oct 29, 2005, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by Cheshire Cat

I know that if two different characters cast the same life degen spell on a target then they do not stack. But, if say you have 2 necromancers each casting life transfer on a single target, and one necro has it at a higher level than the other does, does the higher level transfer take precedence over the lower one, or does the one that was cast first win out? Same goes for any variable level health degen spell like conjure phantasm. I've been wondering this for a long time but nobody can answer it, any help would be appreciated.

That's a good question... although I can't help but point out that Conjure Phantasm isn't a variable-level health degen spell.

It's always five arrows.

NatalieD · Oct 29, 2005, 10:17 AM // 10:17

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Originally Posted by Javinator

Would a monk be able to help the person by casting martyr and then giving themselves an enchanment that gives benefits to healing for being hexxed/injured (assuming the mesmer didn't have shatter enchant)?

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Originally Posted by The Unknown Enemy

Yes, they would be able to. But one thing, the monk would be pretty damn close to dying, meaning you wouldn't be able to help many people, as you are busy just trying to stay alive.

Melandru's Resilience! Takes the edge off the degen, most likely, and anyway with that much energy a monk would be fine. Even ten arrows of degen is only 20 health/second.

'course, you can't use Melandru's Resilience with Martyr, but that's what Draw Conditions is for...

nicky nightmare · Oct 29, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

my favorite hex combo would be life siphon and life transfer..... hurt them and heal yourself.... What could be better? how bout adding in rotting flesh to spread degen to everyone else???? i love nec hexes

Cheshire Cat · Oct 29, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by NatalieD

That's a good question... although I can't help but point out that Conjure Phantasm isn't a variable-level health degen spell.

It's always five arrows.

oh yeah good call. Thanks for the response.

Oct 14, 2005, 02:51 PM // 14:51	#1
PoobliuS Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005	Do "health degeneration" hex spells stack? For example, If I would cast parasitic bond (which does health degen -1/sec) and then cast faintheartedness (health degen -3/sec) would they combine to cause health degen -4/sec? or does the last spell replace the first? or what exactly happens? Thanks.

Oct 14, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54	#2
Guizzy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Quebec Profession: Me/E	God, they would suck if they did not!

Oct 14, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58	#3
huh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Hou Lan Geng [HLG]	All of it stacks. But the max degen arrows you can have at one time is 10, same goes for regen. So if someone had life degen of 20, he would only suffer from 10. But if healing breeze was cast on that person (assuming 9 regen arrows), the person would still suffer 10 degen arrows (since technically he still has 11 degen arrows). Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Oct 14, 2005, 05:07 PM // 17:07	#4
The Unknown Enemy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Umm..No response (stalkers, gotta hate them) Guild: Synful Desire [SD] Profession: E/Me	Your perfectly right, but it is fun watching someone having max health degen. The monks will spam hb on the person, and still he dies. One of my fav combos w/ a group is poison arrow, immolate, conjure phantasm, bleeding (w/e may cause it), phantom pain, and so on.....you can consider them dead, as they won't be able to heal after having 10 points of degen, plus the other 20-30 points if someone were to put a healing spell on them.

Oct 14, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18	#5
Javinator Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: Mo/W	Would a monk be able to help the person by casting martyr and then giving themselves an enchanment that gives benefits to healing for being hexxed/injured (assuming the mesmer didn't have shatter enchant)? Javinator

Oct 29, 2005, 09:26 AM // 09:26	#8
Cheshire Cat Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2005	I know that if two different characters cast the same life degen spell on a target then they do not stack. But, if say you have 2 necromancers each casting life transfer on a single target, and one necro has it at a higher level than the other does, does the higher level transfer take precedence over the lower one, or does the one that was cast first win out? Same goes for any variable level health degen spell like conjure phantasm. I've been wondering this for a long time but nobody can answer it, any help would be appreciated.

Oct 29, 2005, 09:34 AM // 09:34	#9
Shadowdaemon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anderson IN USA Guild: Ecks Di [xD] Profession: W/N	i know in the case of life siphon and such, both necros will get the regen from it, and i am pretty sure the stronger of the two will effect the target(for a short while you could stick life siphon on two or three targets and the regen would stack, but i am pretty sure they fixed that now)

Oct 29, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#12
nicky nightmare Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: between a rock and a hard place...... Guild: Miendrak'el Myrth (MeM	my favorite hex combo would be life siphon and life transfer..... hurt them and heal yourself.... What could be better? how bout adding in rotting flesh to spread degen to everyone else???? i love nec hexes